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hello and welcome to the skeptic zone

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sure number 38 for the tenth of July

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2009 the Richardson is here with you in

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fact i'm also at the amazing meeting

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right now in las vegas with james randi

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Phil Plait with all those other skeptics

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so if you are also at the amazing

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meeting let me know if you hear the

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podcast on today's episode we have an

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interview with Shane Killian Shane is

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very well known on the internet for

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producing some very interesting

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debunking type videos and after that we

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have a sort of a a mini mini think tank

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where dr. retching and Diane and I

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discuss a visit to a mini mini mind-body

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wallet festival that's followed by an

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interview with Kate Murray and Serena

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todd from australian museum members and

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that includes a dinosaur or two so sit

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back have a cup of what will be this

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week cappuccino and enjoy the skeptic

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Shane Killian is a graphic designer a

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business owner and a single father of

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two he's a musician who plays several

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instruments and also a dancer and says

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tango is his favorite he's also a

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skeptic and spend some of his spare time

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making YouTube videos debunking

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misinformation wherever he finds it he's

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a fan of both science and politics and

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he takes any opportunity he can not only

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and joining me now on the line from

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North Carolina which to me is the other

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side of the world of course is Shane

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Kelly and hello Shane hello hello very

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good to be with you now I have been

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really enjoying your tremendous series

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of videos that you've been putting up on

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YouTube and I must say your production

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standards a IRA cut above the normal

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thing you see on youtube what why are

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you so inspired to do all this work well

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there are a lot of reasons obviously I

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have all this information in my head and

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all of these opinions I'd like to get

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out and before doing a blog you'd have

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to sit down and type the blog and edit

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and put it up and with a video you can

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do something that's visual you can do it

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with sound and it's just so much more

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fulfilling to me and I thoroughly enjoy

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doing that what inspired you originally

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to do it was too was it to counter some

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of the claims you were seeing online

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yeah I've been involved in the creation

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ISM debate for something like 20 years

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on a Thompson's inside-out skeptic over

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on using it and it's kind of grown from

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there and I think I've learned more

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science doing meth and I ever learned in

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any science class it's just amazing and

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i started doing videos about two and a

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half years ago I had an accident and I

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had to be in the hospital bed and a

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wheelchair for a while and so for a

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while there was kind of like my only

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link with the outside world and so I

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started been videos and really started

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getting into doing that and i think my

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first debunking was of an astrologer

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James Young that might have been my

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first one and he made a few videos he

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made one where he tried to Reba James

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Randi and one were you trying to rebut

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decided to go after him and that kind of

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kind of started something that's become

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a bit of a mild obsession I think so but

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I'm glad it is in a way because that

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they are very interesting videos and you

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do put time into making them look quite

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good I think you use

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some keying effects and some very

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interesting slow motion effects

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specifically when you are talk about the

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gravity on the moon and the one-sixth

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gravity can you tell me a little bit

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more about that yeah I believe you're

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talking about when I was debating one

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aspect of the moon hooks with a guy

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named Gerald white and I was trying to

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prove to him what you can easily show

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mathematically the gravity on earth is

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about six times that of the moon and the

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square root of six is about 2.46 and so

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that is about the ratio of the levels of

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freefall if you drop something on the

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moon it'll take about two point four six

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times longer to hit the ground then it

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will on earth and jerra white was saying

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that wasn't true that it was one hundred

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and fifty percent and I was saying it

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was two hundred forty six percent so I

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did we had a piece of video of i believe

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mission that was 15 I think but on

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anyway he did this jump salud where he

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jumped up in the air and saluted and the

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other guy took the picture and there's

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video of that sort of from behind and

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and so what I did was I dropped a weight

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from that same height and then that gave

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me a video that I could use you take the

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moon video and you speed it up two

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hundred forty six percent and they both

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fall at the same rate you take mine and

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you slow it down the appropriate amount

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they both followed the same rate uh-huh

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and he's still going on about it he

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still doesn't accept it I think it's

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very convincing the way you did it when

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you had both and you're dropping things

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from knee height for example and slow it

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down right that was about how high he

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jumped which is really difficult to do I

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mean try it sometime so you people say

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oh you should have been able to jump

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higher than that well it's hard to jump

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that high on earth with

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on a 70 kilogram pack and I don't know

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how much the rest of the suit ways yeah

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bulky and hard to move in and he managed

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to jump knee high and also I like the

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way that you show that the the so-called

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wires used to hold up the the astronauts

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on the moon we're in fact glinting um

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Arizona the backpack in tenor yeah the

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back pocket antenna glinting and when

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you explain it it's so obvious but when

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I must admit on first viewing and your

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opponent is pointing out look you can

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clearly see the wire here glinting and

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then you talked about the fact that even

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the best special effects people in the

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late 60s couldn't have achieved that

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the guy from what was it a 2001 a space

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odyssey 2001 a Space Odyssey Douglas

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supervisor and what he did was when you

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see the scenes of them floating around

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in zero-g the camera is like on or near

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the ground pointing upward so even

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though it may look like it's shooting

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from the side the whole set is to the

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side the cameras pointing upward the

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actors hanging down and then the cable

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is then behind the actor so you don't

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have to worry about hiding it right so I

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okay this is that that makes it clear I

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understand that now so but for Hollywood

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in the late 60s to have removed wires

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from frames and things we simply add the

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question they didn't have that

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technology right they would have had to

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do it optically and you know there may

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but it would mess up how the rest of the

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picture looks and of course if they try

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and airbrush it then each frame would be

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a little different some people actually

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jiggling edges of the brush from frame

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to frame so it's not like today where

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extraordinary to me that they go to so

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much trouble to if it was a hoax and yet

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still have things like wires in the in

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the image at all they would simply not

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notice that and let it let that go out

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to the public it's just amazing why

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what they go through all the trouble of

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making everyone fall at the exact

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freefall amount and then leave a rock

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with the c label showing up absolutely

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right yeah it is crazy but you know

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people still still buying into it it's

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amazing so you obviously have an

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enormous amount of fun with those videos

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and as I said before you do put some

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time into the production values because

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you use lots of backdrops and all that

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will slowing down and speeding up and

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inserts and all sorts of things and you

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creationism which I quite enjoy I what's

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next what are you planning some more

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videos I'm planning more episodes of

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Baga citty but it's extremely difficult

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to make so those are probably going to

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be somewhere on the level of six

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the first six ru reshooting are you just

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Corrections that I have to do but it's

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there are going to be commentaries

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features and so there's there's going to

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be some extra stuff on there oh I look

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forward to that that'll be fantastic

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because your videos are so enjoyable now

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for our listeners who want to visit your

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YouTube site where do they head to that

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will be youtube.com slash shane DK

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saanddk excellent excellent so everybody

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after you've listened to the skeptic

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zone today have a look at those videos

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there they're really very interesting

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something which many Australians are

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unaware of simply because we don't seem

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to have a similar thing in this country

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is your involvement with the Libertarian

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Party is the party yes it's a party can

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you tell out our listeners fill them in

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a little bit about the philosophy and

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the thinking behind that well I probably

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have to go back to the founding of the

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country because obviously we in the

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revolution

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overthrew King George and people were

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very very leery about a central power

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because they didn't want to just replace

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one tyrant with another and so they made

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a very very limited government and if

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you read our Constitution there's a part

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in there it's article 1 section 8 where

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it's just a list of things the federal

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government can do and there aren't many

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foresee things like a space program and

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things like that but really just a lot

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of the things that people think are

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functions of government are things

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they're not really supposed to be doing

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under the Constitution and so many

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people think that our government has

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just gone out of control and you can see

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some of this in my videos and in fact an

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episode 4 of Baga citty there's actually

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footage of a raid on a South Carolina

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high school they did a drug raid and

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didn't find any drugs but I mean they

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had all these students you know laid

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the police actually had their guns drawn

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pointed at the students and so so many

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of us are just thinking that this has

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just gotten way way out of control that

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about the only way you can prevent the

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abuse of power is to take away the power

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to abuse and so we believe that

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government should be limited to a few

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functions police national defense the

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court system and pretty much let society

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take care of everything else I see so is

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that more a federal issue you're worried

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about or more locally state issues well

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it's all of it the party works on all

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levels the National Party of course is

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concerned with national elections and

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most of our national elections are

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actually state elections because the

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states have their own Senators and

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Representatives and the states actually

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elect the President of each state is a

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lot at a certain number of electors so

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really they're all state elections but

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yeah we're worried about federal levels

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and worried about state and local levels

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any time we think government has gone

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beyond the basic defense and protection

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and safety of society OIC yo

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think we quite have something like that

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in Australia although they're all sorts

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of political parties and lobby groups in

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here and they may well be some people

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here with similar a similar sort of out

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looked to to the libertarians maybe

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there'll be a branch here who knows

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maybe there are others popping up I keep

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hearing up all over the world there's a

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couple litter forming in South America

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and other places so who knows there's so

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many different areas of interest you

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have in your online presence do you do

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receive much feedback good and bad good

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bad and ugly I don't want to get into a

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lot of it right now because it's so

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recent the wounds are pretty deep but

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I've got a couple of users basically who

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couldn't refute when I said so they've

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made a couple of very vicious videos

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trying to expose me as a racist Oh Dan

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that understand I grew up in the south I

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grew up with the Ku Klux Klan there was

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one point when i was living in

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greensboro the Klan murdered a family

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living two apartment buildings down for

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me so that's a very personal thing for

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me and i have not taken it well but yeah

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so instead of maybe attacking your

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arguments like any decent person would

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right we have people trying to attack

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other aspects which aren't relevant

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relevant to the points you make in your

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videos for example if some if what

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someone disagrees with you about your

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creationism videos or your moon hoax

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videos instead of attacking the points

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I'll do something else that's a that's

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not unheard of yeah well that's well one

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of the points was this was one of my

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political videos and I was pointing out

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that there's a lot of things that our

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government is doing in this country that

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holds down minorities and not

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necessarily things that have passed with

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you know some racist person who comes a

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guy I'm going to do this and no it's

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it's mostly unintended consequences but

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one was um was the licensing laws most

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states have licensing laws about

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cosmetology and it's mostly something

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one of us here called corporatism where

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you're making laws that favor the

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existing businesses and the big

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corporations making it difficult for

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people to form startups and compete with

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them and what's happening is in a lot of

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cities all over America there are you

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have so much of a disproportionate

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representative of blacks in impoverished

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areas we still have that even here in

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the 21st century and it's a crying shame

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but a lot of them have been trying to

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start up their own businesses and they

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run afoul of these licensing laws and

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the example I used was of young black

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women doing hair braiding and they'd

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said a pair brain listen government

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would come in and shut them down because

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they didn't have a cosmetology license

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and they'd have to spend all this money

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and take 4,000 hours of classes and of

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course there's no way they can afford to

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do that well this one guy took that and

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said that I was saying that that was the

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only skill they had and their only

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choice and no of course I wasn't it was

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just an example that when you do have

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strong opinions and you do your debating

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people online you're bound to get people

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criticizing you and praising you at the

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same time you I hope you get some good

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comments too oh absolutely I've got

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enough of a good subscriber base they're

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really good they're very encouraging and

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if it hadn't been for them I think I

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would have given it up a while back is

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just not being worth it but you know

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every time someone comes on and gives me

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encouraging words or helps me attack the

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guys who are just making baseless

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attacks that really helps a lot you know

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the moral support that's excellent well

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I encourage everybody to to visit your

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your YouTube channel especially because

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I really enjoy that and are you on

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Twitter I am NOT um oh i know i'm not

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i'm not doing much my geek cred by

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saying that but I mean I I pilots I

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followed some some tweets here and there

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it's just I've never really had much to

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Twitter about if I have things to say I

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usually just wait and put it into a

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video and put it online or sometimes

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I'll put it on my Facebook page and in

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my staff

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sir posted as a link or whatever yeah

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all right so if people want to see all

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that you have to offer online what's the

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best thing they can do what's the best

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link yeah you know I keep saying I have

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to put this all in one place and because

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my normal website is Shane Killian org

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and I am very bad about not updating

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that I don't remember when the last time

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I made a blog post on that was but I

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have another website for the baga satish

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0 which is began studied on TV there's

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not a lot there right now but there is

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an online forum that you can go and it's

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got quite a few users discussing various

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things not just from the episodes but

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also related issues all right well I

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encourage everybody to to check those

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out and if you like what Shane does with

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his videos especially let him know leave

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nice comments and let other people know

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about it too well Shane a pleasure to

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talk with you and are you going to be

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coming to Dragon Con this year no I

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don't normally do Dragon Con and the

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amazing meeting is my first priority and

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I'm not even going to be able to afford

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that this year so oh that's that that's

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a pretty um said everyone out there

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who's listening at am i miss you i love

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you hopefully i'll see you next year

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well Shane Killian a pleasure to talk

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with you and thank you very much well

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I'm not surprised at best time today I'm

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here with dad no Anand dr. hu we've just

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been to the mind body while it's a

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little a mini mini my body want to add

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our local club in fact and what did we

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learn well I learnt that urine can cure

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a yes yes and also it can be used as a

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substitute for vaccinations yes all

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things like well she wasn't specific but

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she said anything that you might get

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overseas so I guess yellow fever

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remember me all you do listen is if you

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put a couple of drops of your own urine

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under your tongue and what that does is

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it activates your immune system yeah and

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this is I'm paraphrasing but what it

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does is because she's you know what it's

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like when you get an immunization you

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put little foreign particles into your

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body and that causes your immune system

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to respond yeah well this is the same

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sort of thing now that's what she said

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and there's one major major problem with

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that concept stuff that comes out of

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your way we is by definition coming from

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your own body therefore it's your own

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proteins etc so you're not going to have

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an immune response to that unless you've

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got an autoimmune disease then you

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stuffed anyway it's all because she had

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the perfect answer to all of that when I

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asked her why isn't this thing promoted

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by the you know why is it was worldwide

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news and Nobel prizes it's because large

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firm a big farmers suppressing it yeah a

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big firm ringing but when you said to

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her Richard well but Big Pharma could

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make millions of billions of dollars if

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they were to harness this and sell it

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what was the response oh because no they

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can't do that because it's your own

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urine I see but they couldn't purify the

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active ingredient I do the urine just it

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that doesn't come in just this when

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things fall to pieces because there's no

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active ingredient that's gonna kill HIV

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and your

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but I have to say like she had a series

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of books for sale three dollars each

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quite an extensive range maybe 10 now

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all written by one guy I've written down

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his name because it was much of a water

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divining mayor and dousing for health

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and also to raise alkaline water the

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magic of the papaya train the alkaline

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water was about anti-aging that was

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apparently what it did so let me just

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find this guy isn't it interesting too I

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mean I'm today I hadn't listened as I

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didn't have my normal control and I

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actually had a big guy oh yeah I to

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welcome him away well I had to be guided

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to kick you I'm not doing with this

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woman about it in fact you well this

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guy's name is Harold W to hit see mm-hmm

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TI 80s at eight so I'm going to look him

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up because he apparently has the cure

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for everything he does but Diane doesn't

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need that because you had some Reiki

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done dear I did what was that like it

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was very good very relaxing but didn't

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do anything else didn't do really

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anything no I'm just sat in the chair it

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was nice actually when he went the guy

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put his hands on my knees that that was

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the only thing who was nice about it

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sexy Reggie you had some lifeway cure a

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treatment don't know when they call it

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etches touches it's not it's not a cure

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it's not a treatment it's not therapy

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but it does alleviate pain no it doesn't

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know it doesn't leave yet pendant it's

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not a treatment for pain we don't offer

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medical advice and I Richard almost blew

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my cover a couple of times because

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here's a bit cranky today yeah and so

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he's lost his temper but I was I've done

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a lot of research on lifewave and

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readers and listeners would know that

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I've written a blog about it and I got a

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lots of heated responses to that so I

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00:23:52,169 --> 00:23:50,120
wanted to get the demonstration from a

541
00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:52,179
distributor to see how it works and

542
00:23:57,010 --> 00:23:54,530
Diane almost got me in trouble as well

543
00:23:58,480 --> 00:23:57,020
because this woman was faked that I had

544
00:24:01,240 --> 00:23:58,490
lower back pain you had to walk away

545
00:24:02,710 --> 00:24:01,250
didn't I am he's under standard yeah but

546
00:24:04,330 --> 00:24:02,720
she was she was fiddling around by

547
00:24:05,470 --> 00:24:04,340
putting these patches on my back and of

548
00:24:06,789 --> 00:24:05,480
course I couldn't see where she was

549
00:24:08,289 --> 00:24:06,799
putting them she just moved them and

550
00:24:09,850 --> 00:24:08,299
she'd say does that feel better has it

551
00:24:10,820 --> 00:24:09,860
does that alleviate your pain more than

552
00:24:12,409 --> 00:24:10,830
it was last time

553
00:24:13,940 --> 00:24:12,419
the matches were actually on your

554
00:24:16,070 --> 00:24:13,950
clothes they weren't actually on your

555
00:24:17,810 --> 00:24:16,080
skin either they were initially on my

556
00:24:21,169 --> 00:24:17,820
clothes then they went on my skin

557
00:24:23,149 --> 00:24:21,179
because my shirt kept moving and that

558
00:24:26,419 --> 00:24:23,159
appellant that was the reason not that

559
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:26,429
it's yeah not that it has to be on your

560
00:24:29,570 --> 00:24:27,690
skin no no no because they're non

561
00:24:31,310 --> 00:24:29,580
transdermal which means that nothing

562
00:24:33,799 --> 00:24:31,320
passes into your skin from the patches

563
00:24:35,120 --> 00:24:33,809
it's all just in fact she do me she

564
00:24:36,980 --> 00:24:35,130
didn't offer the explanation that they

565
00:24:38,570 --> 00:24:36,990
channel light doesn't already in lives

566
00:24:40,580 --> 00:24:38,580
which was interesting because that's

567
00:24:41,899 --> 00:24:40,590
what's all over the web site but anyway

568
00:24:43,250 --> 00:24:41,909
because i had the patches on my back

569
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:43,260
where I couldn't see Diane sort of

570
00:24:47,509 --> 00:24:44,850
reached around with her iphone to take a

571
00:24:49,340 --> 00:24:47,519
photo of the patches so that we could

572
00:24:52,370 --> 00:24:49,350
remember later where to put them when we

573
00:24:53,990 --> 00:24:52,380
buy them and she got quite angry did she

574
00:24:55,430 --> 00:24:54,000
sees extent asking why are you taking

575
00:24:57,259 --> 00:24:55,440
pictures what are you taking pictures or

576
00:24:59,000 --> 00:24:57,269
what I said just want to know at what

577
00:25:01,490 --> 00:24:59,010
spot we have to put the caches in so we

578
00:25:03,470 --> 00:25:01,500
know they're effective next time but I

579
00:25:05,149 --> 00:25:03,480
think she was part of the chain isn't

580
00:25:07,879 --> 00:25:05,159
she I think she's probably really book

581
00:25:08,870 --> 00:25:07,889
does believe it they because what

582
00:25:10,610 --> 00:25:08,880
happens is she was doing the

583
00:25:13,669 --> 00:25:10,620
demonstration all day putting these

584
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:13,679
patches on people and then will often

585
00:25:16,820 --> 00:25:15,330
report they feel a bit better but I was

586
00:25:18,710 --> 00:25:16,830
saying to Diane afterwards I mean I

587
00:25:20,180 --> 00:25:18,720
stood there while she filled she was

588
00:25:22,759 --> 00:25:20,190
actually touching my skin to once again

589
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:22,769
because she said my shirt was moving so

590
00:25:25,700 --> 00:25:24,210
she had her hands all over my back and

591
00:25:27,919 --> 00:25:25,710
she shifted this patch around to find

592
00:25:29,509 --> 00:25:27,929
the best spots and pain relief and then

593
00:25:31,580 --> 00:25:29,519
what she's doing that she's saying to

594
00:25:34,100 --> 00:25:31,590
you does that help is it does it feel

595
00:25:37,340 --> 00:25:34,110
better does it feel better now and so

596
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:37,350
you do feel like you're obliged to say

597
00:25:40,879 --> 00:25:39,210
oh yes it does I mean I made it up

598
00:25:43,310 --> 00:25:40,889
anyway so I was bullshitting from the

599
00:25:44,810 --> 00:25:43,320
get-go but if you're there for about

600
00:25:46,009 --> 00:25:44,820
five minutes and your friends are sort

601
00:25:48,230 --> 00:25:46,019
of milling around and there are a few

602
00:25:49,610 --> 00:25:48,240
people and it's not a new extracted to

603
00:25:51,049 --> 00:25:49,620
work it's a public environment you've

604
00:25:53,029 --> 00:25:51,059
got someone all over you touching you

605
00:25:56,110 --> 00:25:53,039
what's he gonna say it feels better yeah

606
00:25:58,580 --> 00:25:56,120
yeah I think so yeah and when I asked to

607
00:26:00,350 --> 00:25:58,590
was it actually treating pain she said

608
00:26:03,350 --> 00:26:00,360
no so I wasn't quite sure what it

609
00:26:07,340 --> 00:26:03,360
actually then she's been told that they

610
00:26:09,409 --> 00:26:07,350
can't make those claims mm-hmm all right

611
00:26:11,899 --> 00:26:09,419
another mommy just that I'm briefly just

612
00:26:13,700 --> 00:26:11,909
mentioned the zu juice or whatever it

613
00:26:16,190 --> 00:26:13,710
was called what's the specials any ideas

614
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:16,200
xango juice what is it with an X then

615
00:26:22,039 --> 00:26:19,770
it's insane Thank jenga xango juice yeah

616
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:22,049
this is one of those new miracle drinks

617
00:26:25,399 --> 00:26:24,090
like you know that you get every few

618
00:26:27,350 --> 00:26:25,409
months you hear about the goji berry

619
00:26:31,490 --> 00:26:27,360
that's been released to the Western

620
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:31,500
world by the Himalayan what this one's

621
00:26:35,779 --> 00:26:33,450
made from it's not like the Yeti is a

622
00:26:37,580 --> 00:26:35,789
complete possibly deities make this

623
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:37,590
stuff do they are these went Diane

624
00:26:42,409 --> 00:26:39,690
whether they come from visit from Asia

625
00:26:45,470 --> 00:26:42,419
yeah made from mangosteen yeah

626
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:45,480
mangosteen which is the fruit and it's

627
00:26:49,220 --> 00:26:47,610
encased in our hearts of the casing and

628
00:26:51,950 --> 00:26:49,230
there's a soft fruit inside but it's the

629
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:51,960
whole kit and caboodle is crushed up to

630
00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:53,970
make this amazing antioxidant cures

631
00:26:58,580 --> 00:26:56,850
everything blah blah and she had a book

632
00:27:01,669 --> 00:26:58,590
on other areas they're just a good

633
00:27:05,570 --> 00:27:01,679
little packet here is a sample size ok

634
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:05,580
thank me in GAO xing go folks mangosteen

635
00:27:14,779 --> 00:27:08,730
beverage yeah and it's in French as well

636
00:27:17,570 --> 00:27:14,789
this says go soul or megastores but she

637
00:27:20,149 --> 00:27:17,580
had a book which was is written by a

638
00:27:22,610 --> 00:27:20,159
doctor physician who is also

639
00:27:25,039 --> 00:27:22,620
interestingly a chiropractor before

640
00:27:27,169 --> 00:27:25,049
himself a pirate captain physician yeah

641
00:27:29,539 --> 00:27:27,179
and he all over the literature it said

642
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:29,549
doctor but not doctor of chiropractic so

643
00:27:34,940 --> 00:27:32,610
misleading and he had 82 different

644
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:34,950
things that this stuff would alleviate

645
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:39,450
and or cure only 82 82 you yeah what an

646
00:27:43,700 --> 00:27:41,010
interesting thing it is to come to these

647
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:43,710
now if we both look over all three of us

648
00:27:49,250 --> 00:27:45,570
look over towards the bar there see the

649
00:27:51,740 --> 00:27:49,260
bar see right number she's expect me to

650
00:27:53,210 --> 00:27:51,750
Nixon intraplate and see you at the very

651
00:27:54,350 --> 00:27:53,220
end there's a machine dispensing

652
00:27:59,180 --> 00:27:54,360
something can you tell me what the big

653
00:28:00,169 --> 00:27:59,190
science is nuts and I think that sums it

654
00:28:01,609 --> 00:28:00,179
up for today

655
00:28:18,659 --> 00:28:01,619
thank you doctor oh gee thanks

656
00:28:23,769 --> 00:28:21,669
australian museum members is the

657
00:28:27,490 --> 00:28:23,779
membership branch of the Australian

658
00:28:29,919 --> 00:28:27,500
Museum in Sydney Australia the members

659
00:28:32,590 --> 00:28:29,929
broad role is to support the museum's

660
00:28:35,590 --> 00:28:32,600
work by providing a forum to highlight

661
00:28:38,169 --> 00:28:35,600
its exhibitions and scientific research

662
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:38,179
in addition the members provides an

663
00:28:43,389 --> 00:28:40,850
arena for discussion of wider scientific

664
00:28:45,700 --> 00:28:43,399
social and cultural issues but most

665
00:28:48,430 --> 00:28:45,710
importantly the members enables the

666
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:48,440
community to become directly involved in

667
00:28:56,940 --> 00:28:55,370
the museum's activities and I'm here now

668
00:28:59,409 --> 00:28:56,950
at the office of australian museum

669
00:29:01,330 --> 00:28:59,419
members and i'm speaking with Kate

670
00:29:03,490 --> 00:29:01,340
Murray who's the executive officer and

671
00:29:06,700 --> 00:29:03,500
Serena Todd who's the Events Coordinator

672
00:29:08,139 --> 00:29:06,710
hello hi hi Richard it's really nice to

673
00:29:10,419 --> 00:29:08,149
see you both again of course we're old

674
00:29:12,279 --> 00:29:10,429
friends the Australian skeptics

675
00:29:14,499 --> 00:29:12,289
especially if had a long and very good

676
00:29:17,470 --> 00:29:14,509
relationship here with the Australian

677
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:17,480
Museum yes absolutely and you yourself

678
00:29:20,830 --> 00:29:19,250
have been a member a private member for

679
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:20,840
a long time as well I have indeed a

680
00:29:24,340 --> 00:29:22,610
card-carrying one in fact that's how I

681
00:29:26,529 --> 00:29:24,350
got into the museum today I flashed my

682
00:29:29,019 --> 00:29:26,539
card excellent i flash my card and you

683
00:29:31,690 --> 00:29:29,029
know came now just briefly for our

684
00:29:33,220 --> 00:29:31,700
listeners can you Kate can you tell us

685
00:29:35,789 --> 00:29:33,230
what are the benefits of becoming

686
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:35,799
involved with trillion museum members

687
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:38,330
well australian museum membership

688
00:29:41,950 --> 00:29:40,250
provides you with the opportunity to

689
00:29:44,289 --> 00:29:41,960
come to the australian museum every day

690
00:29:45,999 --> 00:29:44,299
of the year you get to come to all of

691
00:29:47,980 --> 00:29:46,009
our events you get advance notice for

692
00:29:49,869 --> 00:29:47,990
all of those discounts for all of those

693
00:29:51,700 --> 00:29:49,879
you get to the come to the australia

694
00:29:53,019 --> 00:29:51,710
museum shop buy all your gifts and

695
00:29:55,269 --> 00:29:53,029
purchases some of them are quite unique

696
00:29:57,100 --> 00:29:55,279
you get a discount for all of those you

697
00:29:58,779 --> 00:29:57,110
get the Australian Museum magazine sent

698
00:30:00,399 --> 00:29:58,789
to your door you get an email newsletter

699
00:30:02,769 --> 00:30:00,409
every month and a range of other

700
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:02,779
benefits the other really important

701
00:30:06,399 --> 00:30:04,250
thing about membership is that it's

702
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:06,409
supporting Australia's first museum to

703
00:30:10,149 --> 00:30:08,090
continue its good work so through

704
00:30:11,769 --> 00:30:10,159
Australia museum members we gave a

705
00:30:13,810 --> 00:30:11,779
hundred thousand dollars to the new

706
00:30:16,419 --> 00:30:13,820
museum dinosaur gallery just last year

707
00:30:18,610 --> 00:30:16,429
that's fantastic and I think we'll get

708
00:30:20,109 --> 00:30:18,620
to the dinosaur gallery a bit later on

709
00:30:21,820 --> 00:30:20,119
because there's a there's a very strong

710
00:30:22,659 --> 00:30:21,830
connection therewith Australian skeptics

711
00:30:25,029 --> 00:30:22,669
which would too

712
00:30:26,950 --> 00:30:25,039
talk about soon um you know what I

713
00:30:28,869 --> 00:30:26,960
didn't realize that there were so many

714
00:30:30,909 --> 00:30:28,879
benefits and i'm a member myself so

715
00:30:32,529 --> 00:30:30,919
there you go that's fantastic oh one of

716
00:30:34,690 --> 00:30:32,539
our challenges is to let all I members

717
00:30:36,220 --> 00:30:34,700
know just how large the range of

718
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:36,230
benefits are so everyone can make the

719
00:30:40,539 --> 00:30:38,690
best advantage of them yeah I think that

720
00:30:43,239 --> 00:30:40,549
that's wonderful i said the shop here is

721
00:30:45,279 --> 00:30:43,249
fantastic but i really do love the

722
00:30:48,729 --> 00:30:45,289
events and the talks and all the things

723
00:30:50,889 --> 00:30:48,739
that you have that throughout the year

724
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:50,899
in fact can you tell me some some of the

725
00:30:56,529 --> 00:30:53,690
more recent ones you've had our events

726
00:30:58,960 --> 00:30:56,539
have a broad range we do everything from

727
00:31:02,109 --> 00:30:58,970
night talks to kids events including

728
00:31:04,779 --> 00:31:02,119
sleepovers leap overs yeah dude asleep

729
00:31:06,759 --> 00:31:04,789
oh oh wow I've got to sleep in the

730
00:31:10,029 --> 00:31:06,769
dinosaur gallery sleep like like that

731
00:31:13,269 --> 00:31:10,039
movie The the museum yes yes there you

732
00:31:15,489 --> 00:31:13,279
go and what are the talks are especially

733
00:31:17,739 --> 00:31:15,499
good oh I might just a switch over to

734
00:31:20,710 --> 00:31:17,749
Serena who is the events coordinator of

735
00:31:24,190 --> 00:31:20,720
course so the talks that we do range

736
00:31:27,659 --> 00:31:24,200
from amber to dementia to Sydney in the

737
00:31:30,039 --> 00:31:27,669
Ice Age geology astronomy psychology

738
00:31:31,570 --> 00:31:30,049
finances anything you want to know you

739
00:31:33,820 --> 00:31:31,580
can come here and learn about it that's

740
00:31:35,590 --> 00:31:33,830
true and I've attended many talks here

741
00:31:37,359 --> 00:31:35,600
myself and I've even had the pleasure of

742
00:31:39,369 --> 00:31:37,369
giving wow that's right Richard in fact

743
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:39,379
I was very well attended that was that

744
00:31:43,149 --> 00:31:41,450
was enormous amount of fun i really

745
00:31:45,369 --> 00:31:43,159
enjoyed giving that talk but again

746
00:31:46,599 --> 00:31:45,379
coming here to the little theatre right

747
00:31:48,759 --> 00:31:46,609
here you have here in the australian

748
00:31:50,590 --> 00:31:48,769
museum they're here the such the range

749
00:31:52,599 --> 00:31:50,600
of talks that you have is staggering

750
00:31:54,849 --> 00:31:52,609
what's a real treasure we have that

751
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:54,859
little thinner air that fits 150 people

752
00:31:59,529 --> 00:31:56,690
and given on any given Thursday night

753
00:32:01,269 --> 00:31:59,539
you can pop in and spend an hour at the

754
00:32:04,599 --> 00:32:01,279
Museum learning something about your

755
00:32:06,999 --> 00:32:04,609
world of about the museum last week we

756
00:32:08,859 --> 00:32:07,009
had a talk on amber next week we're

757
00:32:10,509 --> 00:32:08,869
having a talk on Sydney in the Ice Age

758
00:32:11,859 --> 00:32:10,519
which relates to our climate change

759
00:32:13,810 --> 00:32:11,869
exhibition which is also on at the

760
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:13,820
moment it's hard to imagine isn't it

761
00:32:18,519 --> 00:32:17,090
Sydney in the eye side yes that's where

762
00:32:21,129 --> 00:32:18,529
you come here to find out that's what

763
00:32:22,989 --> 00:32:21,139
you come here to find out now what's it

764
00:32:25,769 --> 00:32:22,999
like both of you what's it like working

765
00:32:29,139 --> 00:32:25,779
for a great institution like a museum

766
00:32:30,409 --> 00:32:29,149
well from my perspective I love working

767
00:32:31,789 --> 00:32:30,419
at the Australian Museum

768
00:32:34,249 --> 00:32:31,799
the first Museum in Australia

769
00:32:37,479 --> 00:32:34,259
established at approximately 18 27 and

770
00:32:41,029 --> 00:32:37,489
so we are helping to continue the

771
00:32:44,989 --> 00:32:41,039
tradition of that amazing museum so just

772
00:32:46,340 --> 00:32:44,999
in you know 1830 when people would come

773
00:32:48,769 --> 00:32:46,350
here and this is an amazing place to

774
00:32:50,359 --> 00:32:48,779
come these days is exactly the same

775
00:32:51,649 --> 00:32:50,369
concept and we're continuing that

776
00:32:53,810 --> 00:32:51,659
tradition of course there's new things

777
00:32:55,609 --> 00:32:53,820
now we have some multimedia we have

778
00:32:57,979 --> 00:32:55,619
websites we have all this extra staff

779
00:32:59,960 --> 00:32:57,989
but the core essence of the museum is

780
00:33:01,190 --> 00:32:59,970
still here and that's what's meet and

781
00:33:03,830 --> 00:33:01,200
what makes it exciting because we're

782
00:33:05,509 --> 00:33:03,840
continuing on that exciting unit in rich

783
00:33:08,119 --> 00:33:05,519
history yeah and you're having a lot of

784
00:33:09,830 --> 00:33:08,129
fun to the same yeah it's quite fun it's

785
00:33:11,779 --> 00:33:09,840
a very prestigious Museum obviously so

786
00:33:13,220 --> 00:33:11,789
when you might invite someone to speak

787
00:33:15,139 --> 00:33:13,230
their honored and flattered that you've

788
00:33:16,519 --> 00:33:15,149
invited them so it's a great positioning

789
00:33:19,369 --> 00:33:16,529
tool to put together a really good

790
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:19,379
program yeah it's a good sense of pride

791
00:33:24,409 --> 00:33:21,570
working here I'm sure it is i mean i was

792
00:33:25,609 --> 00:33:24,419
quite on a planet and i tell you what I

793
00:33:27,979 --> 00:33:25,619
what it wouldn't one of the things I

794
00:33:30,379 --> 00:33:27,989
love about your attitude is both of you

795
00:33:32,210 --> 00:33:30,389
have a fantastically fun attitude to

796
00:33:34,249 --> 00:33:32,220
your work I remember coming here a few

797
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:34,259
years ago to a costume party and I could

798
00:33:41,710 --> 00:33:35,970
hardly recognized you both you're done

799
00:33:46,519 --> 00:33:44,119
what will you be full we were leopards

800
00:33:49,039 --> 00:33:46,529
like one I remember being in one but we

801
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:49,049
were also ghosts of Christmas past for

802
00:33:52,340 --> 00:33:51,090
our skeletons gallery right so and

803
00:33:54,619 --> 00:33:52,350
that's currently being refurbished and

804
00:33:56,479 --> 00:33:54,629
will open again shortly so there's lots

805
00:33:58,489 --> 00:33:56,489
of interesting skeletons to see in there

806
00:34:00,919 --> 00:33:58,499
in case anyone wants to oh that's a very

807
00:34:03,859 --> 00:34:00,929
famous gallery the skeleton one actually

808
00:34:05,509 --> 00:34:03,869
because if listeners cast their mind

809
00:34:09,260 --> 00:34:05,519
back a few years to the movie superman

810
00:34:11,359 --> 00:34:09,270
returns ah Lex Luthor has seen wandering

811
00:34:14,899 --> 00:34:11,369
through a museum and it was this very

812
00:34:16,780 --> 00:34:14,909
museum yes what that's right we were

813
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:16,790
here on the night that were filming Oh

814
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:19,290
someone even shared a lift with Kevin

815
00:34:25,549 --> 00:34:23,210
Spacey I was told ah but not you know oh

816
00:34:27,169 --> 00:34:25,559
but we have another opportunity coming

817
00:34:29,809 --> 00:34:27,179
up very soon to get dressed up again in

818
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:29,819
costume the museum is opening a major

819
00:34:33,149 --> 00:34:32,490
Egyptian exhibition towards at the end

820
00:34:34,529 --> 00:34:33,159
of this year

821
00:34:36,089 --> 00:34:34,539
and as part of it we're going to do at

822
00:34:37,829 --> 00:34:36,099
least one evening where we will

823
00:34:41,609 --> 00:34:37,839
encourage everyone to come dressed up as

824
00:34:43,649 --> 00:34:41,619
Egyptian gods and things um yeah we like

825
00:34:45,569 --> 00:34:43,659
to dress up and currently I noticed her

826
00:34:48,359 --> 00:34:45,579
on my way down to two to meet you today

827
00:34:50,940 --> 00:34:48,369
the mammoth there's a mammoth exhibition

828
00:34:52,589 --> 00:34:50,950
here woolly mammoths the woolly mammoths

829
00:34:54,750 --> 00:34:52,599
yes that's another theme for our

830
00:34:56,849 --> 00:34:54,760
sleepover so we had a mammoth mega snore

831
00:34:58,410 --> 00:34:56,859
a few weeks ago where kids got to learn

832
00:35:00,029 --> 00:34:58,420
about kids and their parents got to

833
00:35:03,299 --> 00:35:00,039
learn about mammoths and all things in

834
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:03,309
the Ice Age do you stay over we dare you

835
00:35:09,240 --> 00:35:05,530
do we do and sleeping bags or something

836
00:35:11,779 --> 00:35:09,250
really I said fun thing we put our heart

837
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:11,789
and soul into it you do yeah how much

838
00:35:16,620 --> 00:35:14,170
how much of your program is geared

839
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:16,630
towards the younger we're finding that

840
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:18,490
it really is moving that way and we have

841
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:21,010
a core audience that come to our talks

842
00:35:24,450 --> 00:35:22,450
in the evening that are its adult

843
00:35:26,010 --> 00:35:24,460
education but we're noticing that we

844
00:35:28,260 --> 00:35:26,020
have a huge amount of families joining

845
00:35:29,460 --> 00:35:28,270
and coming on so we're really trying to

846
00:35:31,170 --> 00:35:29,470
gear things towards kids these days

847
00:35:33,089 --> 00:35:31,180
we've got a halloween party coming up on

848
00:35:35,220 --> 00:35:33,099
the thirty-first of october and then a

849
00:35:37,620 --> 00:35:35,230
sleepover to celebrate the egyptian

850
00:35:39,599 --> 00:35:37,630
exhibition which we have mummies nor so

851
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:39,609
yeah we're working on I think I'm

852
00:35:48,059 --> 00:35:43,690
detecting a snoring theme yes everything

853
00:35:49,529 --> 00:35:48,069
is they do snore babies no I'm now apart

854
00:35:52,319 --> 00:35:49,539
from the wonderful things that you have

855
00:35:54,380 --> 00:35:52,329
centered around the museum you also go

856
00:35:58,710 --> 00:35:54,390
further afield of course for the

857
00:36:01,620 --> 00:35:58,720
australian museum members yes we do

858
00:36:05,910 --> 00:36:01,630
different tours recent overseas tours

859
00:36:08,549 --> 00:36:05,920
include the Galapagos Islands Antarctica

860
00:36:11,250 --> 00:36:08,559
coming up we have a tour to Egypt and

861
00:36:13,529 --> 00:36:11,260
one to Africa I'm Lord Howe Island oh

862
00:36:16,289 --> 00:36:13,539
I'm in closer to home we've got our Lord

863
00:36:18,089 --> 00:36:16,299
Howe Island trip coming up and more

864
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:18,099
recently we also did a trip to Lizard

865
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:20,410
Island to the Australian museum's Lizard

866
00:36:25,470 --> 00:36:22,690
Island research station off the coast of

867
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:25,480
cans or the Great Barrier Reef and we

868
00:36:29,130 --> 00:36:26,890
also did a trip around out back New

869
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:29,140
South Wales so one of the reasons to

870
00:36:34,170 --> 00:36:32,410
come with the Australian Museum to visit

871
00:36:36,500 --> 00:36:34,180
the world is because you get to hang out

872
00:36:39,240 --> 00:36:36,510
with like minded people you get to learn

873
00:36:41,220 --> 00:36:39,250
all in a bit of a fun environment and

874
00:36:44,110 --> 00:36:41,230
again it's supporting the museum and you

875
00:36:45,970 --> 00:36:44,120
have expert people involved with us

876
00:36:48,250 --> 00:36:45,980
of course so we have experts to get the

877
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:48,260
best information that you can get we

878
00:36:52,300 --> 00:36:50,450
also try and arrange some exclusive

879
00:36:54,910 --> 00:36:52,310
things that other people would not have

880
00:36:57,970 --> 00:36:54,920
the chance to do so we'll go behind the

881
00:37:00,340 --> 00:36:57,980
scenes of a particular museum will go

882
00:37:02,710 --> 00:37:00,350
and meet the preeminent expert on

883
00:37:04,330 --> 00:37:02,720
various things we sort of go that extra

884
00:37:08,290 --> 00:37:04,340
layout to make it a really unique

885
00:37:10,630 --> 00:37:08,300
experience and it's not it's very

886
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:10,640
educational it's not boring educational

887
00:37:14,140 --> 00:37:12,410
it's very educational but with a social

888
00:37:16,720 --> 00:37:14,150
aspects on sort of the best of both

889
00:37:18,310 --> 00:37:16,730
worlds and now we have quite a few

890
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:18,320
takers for our Lord Howe Island trip

891
00:37:23,530 --> 00:37:20,330
which is in November this you we have

892
00:37:24,580 --> 00:37:23,540
one or two spaces left but yeah I

893
00:37:26,140 --> 00:37:24,590
remember to come forward with

894
00:37:28,300 --> 00:37:26,150
suggestions of other places in the world

895
00:37:29,950 --> 00:37:28,310
they'd like to see and we listened to

896
00:37:31,810 --> 00:37:29,960
that and then try to arrange trips in

897
00:37:33,970 --> 00:37:31,820
connection that's certainly how the

898
00:37:35,740 --> 00:37:33,980
recent Antarctica trip came off because

899
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:35,750
a lot of people wanted to go there did

900
00:37:40,750 --> 00:37:38,090
you go I actually did go on that

901
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:40,760
particular trip amazing experience

902
00:37:46,150 --> 00:37:43,370
amazing part of the world everybody I've

903
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:46,160
ever met who's gone there says exactly

904
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:48,650
the same thing they just blown away by

905
00:37:52,780 --> 00:37:50,930
it all yeah it is it is really amazing

906
00:37:55,690 --> 00:37:52,790
and I mean the key reason we're here is

907
00:37:58,210 --> 00:37:55,700
to allow people to become members of the

908
00:38:00,160 --> 00:37:58,220
museum and just for the museum but to

909
00:38:02,710 --> 00:38:00,170
allow them to learn about their world so

910
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:02,720
part of that process was taking a group

911
00:38:08,170 --> 00:38:06,130
of them to Antarctica and so part of the

912
00:38:10,240 --> 00:38:08,180
experience of that from my perspective

913
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:10,250
is interacting with those people and

914
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:12,290
being with them as they have that

915
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:14,210
amazing experience must be a wonderful

916
00:38:18,100 --> 00:38:16,130
feeling of community of like-minded

917
00:38:21,550 --> 00:38:18,110
people especially on an adventure like

918
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:21,560
that yes and there is a definite

919
00:38:25,630 --> 00:38:23,090
community that occurs a lot of people

920
00:38:27,370 --> 00:38:25,640
actually strike up friendships they then

921
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:27,380
we've had some people who've come on

922
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:30,050
some of our troops Serena and I both did

923
00:38:33,010 --> 00:38:31,610
explore our back new south wales and

924
00:38:35,020 --> 00:38:33,020
there are some people who came on that

925
00:38:37,390 --> 00:38:35,030
became friends and then they came to

926
00:38:39,550 --> 00:38:37,400
Lizard Island with us oh so that's

927
00:38:42,130 --> 00:38:39,560
another part of Australia museum members

928
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:42,140
it's about education and community but

929
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:45,410
it's also about social interaction so

930
00:38:50,290 --> 00:38:48,290
there's many many layers to it and it is

931
00:38:52,620 --> 00:38:50,300
it is in rest of the community we often

932
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:52,630
arranged on reunions after the trips and

933
00:38:56,500 --> 00:38:54,890
so it is about that sort of connect

934
00:38:58,750 --> 00:38:56,510
it's not just about numbers and things

935
00:38:59,890 --> 00:38:58,760
it's about people community and that

936
00:39:01,150 --> 00:38:59,900
kind of thing the great thing about

937
00:39:02,620 --> 00:39:01,160
doing it through the Australian Museum

938
00:39:03,910 --> 00:39:02,630
as once again the connections so you

939
00:39:05,829 --> 00:39:03,920
wouldn't you would be able to get into

940
00:39:08,650 --> 00:39:05,839
many museums overseas or behind the

941
00:39:09,940 --> 00:39:08,660
scenes at another museum it's it's a

942
00:39:12,700 --> 00:39:09,950
great way to make connections and to

943
00:39:14,500 --> 00:39:12,710
learn more deeply and you know in the

944
00:39:15,759 --> 00:39:14,510
places that you go you wouldn't just be

945
00:39:17,259 --> 00:39:15,769
going to tourist places you'd be really

946
00:39:21,269 --> 00:39:17,269
getting into the really

947
00:39:24,039 --> 00:39:21,279
behind-the-scenes special experiences oh

948
00:39:25,930 --> 00:39:24,049
now we've just come upstairs here to the

949
00:39:28,450 --> 00:39:25,940
dinosaur gallery ladies isn't this

950
00:39:30,910 --> 00:39:28,460
fantastic yes it's a great space this

951
00:39:34,059 --> 00:39:30,920
jolly museum opened this new space just

952
00:39:36,819 --> 00:39:34,069
recently in fact i think was last year

953
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:36,829
sometime from memory yes about one year

954
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:38,690
ago about a year ago but what a

955
00:39:43,569 --> 00:39:41,690
fantastic use of this room up here at

956
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:43,579
the top of the stairs and let's have a

957
00:39:48,309 --> 00:39:45,650
look at this a giant dinosaur welcomes

958
00:39:50,230 --> 00:39:48,319
us on our arrival and if we just sneak

959
00:39:52,900 --> 00:39:50,240
around the corner here we can see a huge

960
00:39:54,609 --> 00:39:52,910
video display and if we wait long enough

961
00:39:57,670 --> 00:39:54,619
dinosaurs come and feed at the water

962
00:39:59,259 --> 00:39:57,680
don't they yeah this is what happened 95

963
00:40:02,499 --> 00:39:59,269
million years ago at Whitsun in

964
00:40:04,210 --> 00:40:02,509
Queensland I've been there actually yeah

965
00:40:06,279 --> 00:40:04,220
yeah I've been I've seen the tracks it's

966
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:06,289
fascinating all sorts of fossils there's

967
00:40:09,490 --> 00:40:07,970
things for people to look at and touch

968
00:40:10,749 --> 00:40:09,500
and feel which is really important I

969
00:40:12,490 --> 00:40:10,759
think a lot of kids would love to do

970
00:40:14,079 --> 00:40:12,500
that it's a great use of space in it to

971
00:40:16,749 --> 00:40:14,089
Herot obviously a heritage gallery that

972
00:40:18,099 --> 00:40:16,759
was concealed before so all the cladding

973
00:40:19,539 --> 00:40:18,109
that had concealed all the heritage

974
00:40:21,730 --> 00:40:19,549
features have been pulled off so it's

975
00:40:23,740 --> 00:40:21,740
really nice with the building and the

976
00:40:25,359 --> 00:40:23,750
dinosaurs no I can hear now the

977
00:40:29,470 --> 00:40:25,369
Australian Museum of course as you are

978
00:40:30,670 --> 00:40:29,480
saying before hello no no going to

979
00:40:32,349 --> 00:40:30,680
swords yet while we're waiting for the

980
00:40:34,779 --> 00:40:32,359
dinosaurs to come australian museum

981
00:40:37,660 --> 00:40:34,789
members of course were instrumental in

982
00:40:41,230 --> 00:40:37,670
this gallery weren't they yes we

983
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:41,240
provided $100,000 towards this gallery

984
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:43,970
we have a long tradition of providing as

985
00:40:48,490 --> 00:40:45,650
much support to the external museum as

986
00:40:49,900 --> 00:40:48,500
we can and $100,000 to this new

987
00:40:52,509 --> 00:40:49,910
dinosaurs gallery was our most recent

988
00:40:55,190 --> 00:40:52,519
contribution it's just one money well

989
00:40:58,520 --> 00:40:55,200
spent so interesting and such a will

990
00:41:01,220 --> 00:40:58,530
Oh thunder and lightning motor

991
00:41:02,329 --> 00:41:01,230
redemption there's a giant video display

992
00:41:06,349 --> 00:41:02,339
in front of it since like an ancient

993
00:41:09,349 --> 00:41:06,359
sort of creek or a river or lake and we

994
00:41:11,690 --> 00:41:09,359
just it's it's it's all over a wall here

995
00:41:14,390 --> 00:41:11,700
on at the gallery we're just waiting for

996
00:41:15,859 --> 00:41:14,400
the dinosaurs to come it's all the

997
00:41:18,050 --> 00:41:15,869
anticipation but while we're waiting for

998
00:41:20,930 --> 00:41:18,060
the dinosaurs to come if we step over

999
00:41:23,870 --> 00:41:20,940
this way a bit and we look up my

1000
00:41:26,540 --> 00:41:23,880
goodness mean look at that everyone it's

1001
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:26,550
a feathered dinosaur now I had to have a

1002
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:28,290
look at this and a mention of this

1003
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:30,930
because the feathered dinosaurs here

1004
00:41:37,430 --> 00:41:33,570
were actually originally sponsored by

1005
00:41:39,140 --> 00:41:37,440
Australian skeptics yeah so that's our

1006
00:41:41,210 --> 00:41:39,150
little contribution to this wonderful

1007
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:41,220
gallery and every time I come here I

1008
00:41:44,450 --> 00:41:42,810
always have a good look at the old

1009
00:41:45,980 --> 00:41:44,460
feathered dinosaurs doesn't doesn't that

1010
00:41:47,359 --> 00:41:45,990
look fantastic he looks like he's just

1011
00:41:49,190 --> 00:41:47,369
about to jump down and eat you in paper

1012
00:41:51,500 --> 00:41:49,200
well thank you very much that's

1013
00:41:53,150 --> 00:41:51,510
fantastic thank you yes at the time I

1014
00:41:55,250 --> 00:41:53,160
remember it was a great pleasure for us

1015
00:41:56,810 --> 00:41:55,260
to do that down here we have some

1016
00:41:58,040 --> 00:41:56,820
recreations of what it smelt like at the

1017
00:41:59,930 --> 00:41:58,050
time of the dinosaurs what kind of

1018
00:42:02,990 --> 00:41:59,940
plants were around and some of the

1019
00:42:05,690 --> 00:42:03,000
smaller dinosaurs Annette baby dinosaurs

1020
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:05,700
and eggs in oh yeah so if you come over

1021
00:42:09,829 --> 00:42:07,050
here you can actually smell what it

1022
00:42:11,599 --> 00:42:09,839
smells like smell a dinosaur well that's

1023
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:11,609
an interesting concept so we're just

1024
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:14,210
walking around the the displays now oh

1025
00:42:29,150 --> 00:42:23,000
do I have I'm not sure I've never

1026
00:42:31,730 --> 00:42:29,160
smelled the dinosaur become final sort

1027
00:42:34,550 --> 00:42:31,740
of bigots oh he thinks it Estelle sounds

1028
00:42:40,130 --> 00:42:34,560
like dinosaurs here yes he does she love

1029
00:42:42,770 --> 00:42:40,140
dinosaurs oh he does he's a bit shy here

1030
00:42:48,050 --> 00:42:42,780
that interaction yeah sniffing the

1031
00:42:51,830 --> 00:42:48,060
visual and audio discover how they lived

1032
00:42:53,870 --> 00:42:51,840
died and survived excellent one last

1033
00:42:55,670 --> 00:42:53,880
look shall we try a showy tempt fate and

1034
00:42:56,930 --> 00:42:55,680
walk around the corner again and you

1035
00:42:59,240 --> 00:42:56,940
also find out whether or not that come

1036
00:43:03,490 --> 00:42:59,250
to life mmm if you do sleep there oh

1037
00:43:07,070 --> 00:43:03,500
really secrets are revealed

1038
00:43:10,130 --> 00:43:07,080
we can only hope other now this is very

1039
00:43:12,380 --> 00:43:10,140
exciting as we as we stand here believe

1040
00:43:15,140 --> 00:43:12,390
some birds to show that the the

1041
00:43:18,260 --> 00:43:15,150
evolutionary link between dinosaurs and

1042
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:18,270
birds and in about 30 seconds times

1043
00:43:21,740 --> 00:43:19,770
we're going to 30 seconds time we're

1044
00:43:24,230 --> 00:43:21,750
going to actually see some dinosaurs yes

1045
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:24,240
but I can't make please Oh everything

1046
00:43:43,230 --> 00:43:39,880
here he comes dinosaurs just come across

1047
00:43:45,100 --> 00:43:43,240
the landscape now I don't scare him away

1048
00:43:50,020 --> 00:43:45,110
there's lots of kids here they're

1049
00:43:54,850 --> 00:43:50,030
transfixed he's having a dream very

1050
00:43:56,140 --> 00:43:54,860
real-looking it is everyone's under

1051
00:43:58,090 --> 00:43:56,150
gallery has stopped and they're all

1052
00:44:04,150 --> 00:43:58,100
staring this huge dinosaur that's just

1053
00:44:08,980 --> 00:44:04,160
appeared on war then what it looks like

1054
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:08,990
it's splashing out of sna dreams I think

1055
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:11,810
I can hear another one think you might

1056
00:44:21,550 --> 00:44:19,900
he's just walking away my little destino

1057
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:21,560
model does he know it's like being David

1058
00:44:36,390 --> 00:44:24,530
and Barack there's a whole little flock

1059
00:44:42,970 --> 00:44:38,890
fascinating that is about 10 Oakland

1060
00:44:51,580 --> 00:44:47,130
little two-legged ansel no babies ladies

1061
00:44:54,430 --> 00:44:51,590
it's about babies have come across in a

1062
00:44:57,070 --> 00:44:54,440
big stream everyone here sitting

1063
00:45:04,900 --> 00:44:57,080
transfixed the babies are kind of feed

1064
00:45:08,260 --> 00:45:04,910
with their parents from the river do

1065
00:45:15,460 --> 00:45:08,270
something else something lurking in the

1066
00:45:15,470 --> 00:45:19,430
it's a theropod to media

1067
00:45:29,290 --> 00:45:21,050
you know there's a scattering there's

1068
00:45:29,300 --> 00:45:39,170
oh dear now he's looking at us

1069
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:42,030
well wasn't that exciting did you get

1070
00:45:47,190 --> 00:45:43,210
this out of the bones crunching under

1071
00:45:48,660 --> 00:45:47,200
his feet I did I did we better get out

1072
00:45:53,130 --> 00:45:48,670
of here I think before next one comes

1073
00:45:55,740 --> 00:45:53,140
from so Serena do you do you find with

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australian museum members people have a

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real sense of belonging and pride a

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pride in such a wonderful institution

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name is joy museum they absolutely do

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it's so nice to hear people's comments

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when they come out of 12 so when they

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just pop into her office within us an

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email about how proud they are and we

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and the money that we gave recently

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truth the dinosaurs gallery if we just

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discussed yeah it gives them a huge

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sense of pride and it gives their

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children their grandchildren pride they

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can come here and say with my

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grandparents gave money to get that it's

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just you know in time memorial it's just

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going to be everlasting what the

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Australian Museum is a wonderful way to

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spend an afternoon I can vouch for that

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having spent many afternoons here and I

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sincerely encourage everybody to join

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australian museum members now Kate how

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can people go about this well people can

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join up in a variety of ways they can

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certainly call us on 9320 6 225 and we

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can talk them through the process over

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the phone otherwise they can look on the

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internet and go through that process wws

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tralian museum net au forward slash

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members thank you otherwise you can

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actually pop into the museum itself talk

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to the friendly people at the front desk

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and mention that you'd like to join up

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and they can talk you through that

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process so yeah there's a variety of

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different different ways to do it here

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last time I came to see you about

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renewing I signed up for another two

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years so that's how be no good to hear

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well look I can't thank you enough it's

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been a wonderful chance to catch up with

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you both again to my old friends of

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course here at the Australian Museum and

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australian museum members Kate Murray

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and serene and Todd thank you very much

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thank you for listening to the skeptic

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zone and thank you to all the people

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to me and told me that they were in fact

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listening to the skeptic zone next week

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tank until then it's goodbye from

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Richard Saunders signing off from Las

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